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Post by Publicbuck on Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:06 pm

I hunt public land nearly exclusively and use several methods on public that I don't use on private property. I never drag a deer out during daylight hours and try not to leave a blood trail to my stand sights. I use several bazar methods but they have been working. Was wondering if anyone else uses methods specifically for public ground?

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Post by vortex1 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:12 pm

well heres one for you, some times ive seen ten trucks in one parking place on publi land and this would generally discourage most hunters, and i really only do this as a last resort but ill pull in behind them( but out of their way). ill walk about a hundred yards from the truck then vear off to which ever way i like the best for about another hundred yards and climb a tree. here is my theory in places of high pressure hunting deer become acustom to the hunter who has his "spot" 2 milles from the truck, so (im thinkin like a deer ) if old cousin fred got shot last tuesday we might better not go that way so the deer change their route and sometimes instead of goin away from the trucks where they heard all the doors slam, when they decide to mozy about sometimes theyll come towards the trucks leaving the feller whose outsmarted the deer(or was to lazy to walk) to shoot away:) ive killed a few deer that way, but like i said last resort also when the hunters walk out they may push deer over you Smile
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Post by Publicbuck on Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:24 pm

I will occassionally make large rub lines leading from close to parking areas away from my stand sights. I know dirty trick.

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Post by NanookOdaNorth on Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:54 pm

We have a very large swamp that is called "the big mash" on one of my favorite public hunting spots. I incessantly speak of this place whenever I am talking hunting! I tell people about the big bucks that die of old age in there and never see a human. There is also a black bear in there that is supposedly over 1000 pounds. This swamp is so big that hunters are get lost in there every year and the game commission has to go in there and help them get out. People have tried, but they will never find my stand that is left there year around!

Someday I might hunt "the big mash" if all my other public spots dry up!

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Post by SlowBow on Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:25 pm

Bowhunting on opening day of duck season on popular public areas with large marshes has always been one of my favorites. I'll cover gulleys and brushy draws out of the swamp, and station at the edge of thick cover several hundred yards away,getting set up extra early.

When 50 guys in waders plow into the marsh just before first light, the action can be very intense as the deer vacate their sanctuaries!

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Post by Publicbuck on Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:08 pm

One of my favorite tricks involves food. Being public ground and all it is difficult if not impossible to maintain a honey hole food plot. So what I like to do is get tree fertilizer spikes and selectively fertilize a few white oak, persimmon, or other hard mast trees. It is unnoticeable to other hunters but the deer sure find the extra food.

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Post by Cbigbear on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:16 pm

If I walk a main logging rd in I'll make sure to walk back in forth several times in each mud hole. When I'm done it looks like a herd of people have walk in & out this rd.

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Post by Publicbuck on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:26 pm

Cbigbear wrote:If I walk a main logging rd in I'll make sure to walk back in forth several times in each mud hole. When I'm done it looks like a herd of people have walk in & out this rd.

I usually try to avoid the mud to make it look like no one has been there but I really like this idea.

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Post by Cbigbear on Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:40 pm

Here's my thinking - truck parked so they know someone is hunting here might as well think 50 guys are hunting here.

I'll also walk thru a mud hole then double back couple hundred yds to turn off & hunt.

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Post by vortex1 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:56 pm

to slowbow , the duck huntin trick Smile in south sauty i live like 200 ft from the water of the tennessee river and if theyre was ever a day when i would climb a mountain or swim a river to be in a tree somewhere it is the opening day of duck season, cause deer freak out and run all over tha place, been ALOOOOOT of deer killed on that day Smile
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Post by Guest on Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:12 am

SlowBow wrote:Bowhunting on opening day of duck season on popular public areas with large marshes has always been one of my favorites. I'll cover gulleys and brushy draws out of the swamp, and station at the edge of thick cover several hundred yards away,getting set up extra early.

When 50 guys in waders plow into the marsh just before first light, the action can be very intense as the deer vacate their sanctuaries!

That idea never crossed my mind. I guess I know where I will be on duck opener.

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Post by Waiting4Fall on Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:11 pm

Great thread!!!!!
1- I try to NEVER walk on the roads, thus not leaving foot prints.

2- I will get there at 3 am if that's what I have to do, to be the "first on in". When leaving at dark, I will always look for lights, and listen for anyone within ear shot. If I see/hear any sign of a human, I'll just wait til it's all clear. I'm kinda anal about not leaving a trace of my presence on public land.

3- I use bright eyes VERY sparingly. I prefer to memorize natural land marks, that I can recognize in the dark.

4-Normally, I stay in my stand from an hour before sunrise. I will pull my bow up from the ground when legal shooting hours commense. I eat lunch in the tree too. I don't leave the tree until legal shooting are over, or I kill an animal.

5- If I do see someone coming my way, before they see me, I jump over the hill & hide til they have passed. I had to do that when I shot the Guido's Web video.

6- I usually can walk right to my tree in complete darkness. I try to avoid using my headlamp, unless absolutely necessary. Covert Ops bro!!!

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Post by SlowBow on Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:27 pm

vortex1 wrote:to slowbow , the duck huntin trick Smile in south sauty i live like 200 ft from the water of the tennessee river and if theyre was ever a day when i would climb a mountain or swim a river to be in a tree somewhere it is the opening day of duck season, cause deer freak out and run all over tha place, been ALOOOOOT of deer killed on that day Smile

Yeah, I've shot a few that way. Don't overlook opening day of other seasons either. I used to go on the opening day of small game, usually rabbit, quail, and pheasant. The dogs hunters were running,and the hunters themselves would push deer around. Since quail and pheasant are now pretty nonexistent on public lands around here now, and rabbit hunting isn't very popular anymore because of low numbers, I don't make much effort to head out that day anymore. But if you have action from small game hunting on your areas, be sure to stake out thick cover and take advantage of the pressure on those opening days as well.

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Post by Publicbuck on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:26 pm

Youth season is another day I try to be posted up in escape routes. People with youngsters hunting public land don't typically stray far from the roads and push deer right to me.

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Post by Backwaters Bowhunter on Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:20 am

If I use bright eyes I put them in the tree while i'm up in the tree stand, two bright eyes high up a tree sure looks a lot like an animal.

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Post by kmoses on Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:35 pm

I had a time-lapse camera set up at a potential hunting location. On the second day I got a guy walking into frame with his climber, climbing a tree (also the one I was thinking of going up), cutting a few branches, and coming back down. The evening before and that evening a group of three 8 pts walked through there. The area is only a few hundred yards from the parking area (although its a very out-of-the-way area). My only trick is going to be heading further on down the trail in the direction those bucks were coming. That or hunting on the weekday.

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Post by nathanalley123 on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:26 pm

i do the same thing every time take paper plate and right a note

jason im hunt over on the left about a 100 yards. chris is on the right
and frank is about 100 yards down on the right so you have to hunt the other see you at dark

ive never had some one park next to me i hunt alone alien
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Post by vortex1 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:39 am

thats purty funny, i got paper plates ima try that Smile
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Post by crooketarrow on Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:57 pm

I'm by far am in on way to tell anyone about the way they hunt. So don't hate me for this. But A COUPLE OF YOU FALL INTO THIS WAY OF THINKING.
Deer don't reason like we do. Deer only do what they do through INSTINT. SO DO'NT TRY TO OVER GUESS WHAT A DEER WILL DO. YOUR THINKING WHAT YOU WOULD DO. If instints not invloed deer don't do it.

By far my favoret way of buck hunting is hunting edges of bedding areas. THIS GIVES YOU A STARTING POINT WHERE YOU KNOW HE BEDED AND GOING TO STARTHIS NIGHT. Don't get me wrong and not hunt mornings. But morning a bucks had all night to move around and will enter his bedding area FROM ANY DIRECTION. iN THE EVENING YOU KNOW HE'S STARTING OUT GOING FROM BEDDING TO FOOD. iF NOT FOR HISSELF HE KNOWS THE DOE'S WILL BE THERE.Most PL and NF are mountain land. As A GENERAL RULE MOST MATURE BUCKS bed up high either a the top of finger ridges on right below mountain tops or close so they can disapear right ver the top if need be.
In The winter when I do all my scouting follow those rub lines up the finger ridges. When you start finding 2 ,3 ,4 rubs where you can see them from one spot looking down the ridge. You know 2 things.
(1) IT'S A EVENING RUB he's make when he 's gotten up.
(2) WHEN YOU START SEEING MULTABLE RUBS FROM ONE SPOT. I'TS WHERE HE'S GOTTEN UP WALK A BIT STECHING HIS LEGS HE'LL START RUBING WAITING FOR IT TO GET LATER. AS A GENERAL RULE HE'LL ONLY MOVE DOWN THE RIDGE FROM HIS BEDDING AREA 30 ,50 YARDS BE FORE HE STARTED RUBING. NOW YOU KNOW WHERE HE'S BEDED AND HOW FAR TO GO UP TO HIS BEDDING AREA.
SET UP OFF THE DOWN WIND SIDE OF THE FINGER HIGH ENOUGH UP THE RIDGE THAT YOU'LL SEE HIM COMEING DOWN BEFORE DARK.I'VE FOUND OUT IT HE'S NOT PRESURED I like to set up no less than 100,150 yards. This way he'll make it to you before dark. But if I know right were he's bedded I move into 75 or so everytime just to be sure he gets o me by dark.

One of my favoret things to do is this. Weather you kill him or not. If you do another buck will likely take his place the next year.
I know where my set up will be. I like to go below me after a 100 yard or so the next years bedding area can change some exspecially with another buck. I ferilize every WHITE OAK I can on that finger ridge. WHY WHITE OAKS because they start falling earlyer before the pre-rut and rut. Then where the buck will be is up to the doe's
This dose 2 things.
(1) It will make sure he comes down before dark if you've not put any pressure or him. Or he's has'nt found you site out.
(2) It in sure's you'll always have a hiden food plot of PL,NF. OAKS ARE LIKE APPLES GOOD YEAR BAD YEAR. FERTIZE THOSE OAKS YOU'LL HAVE GOOD YEAR GREAT YEAR.
Those years there's little to on mass you'll have yours and the nuts will be more,bigger ,sweeter and it dos'nt take long for deer to find it out. THEY'LL KNOW IT FOR SURE.
We firtizes white oaks for a early site and red oaks for a later site.
But finger ridges arn't the only place I fertized. Those oak flats or ridges I pick out 20 to 30 white oaks that were close together. Keeping the wind direcrion and my walk in and out route in mind when I pick and fertize the spot.
I fertize in the spring hand seeder fertize the drip line of each tree. Do it 2 spring in a row then every other.
You'll have a hiden food score on PL,NF no body but you know about.
I've killed 35 or 40 PL,NF BUCKS some where around half died because to these tatic's. As well as friends bucks.

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Post by apexmapping on Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:07 pm

Publicbuck wrote:I will occassionally make large rub lines leading from close to parking areas away from my stand sights. I know dirty trick.

I gotta admit I did exactly this before and made some scrapes to go along with em. You shoulda seen the trucks lined up...LOL. If they were smart they would've noticed there weren't any actual deer tracks.
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Post by SlowBow on Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:23 pm

apexmapping wrote:
Publicbuck wrote:I will occassionally make large rub lines leading from close to parking areas away from my stand sights. I know dirty trick.

I gotta admit I did exactly this before and made some scrapes to go along with em. You shoulda seen the trucks lined up...LOL. If they were smart they would've noticed there weren't any actual deer tracks.

Reminds me of a favorite story of mine. I pulled out a nice 10 point a number of years ago. Well, I noticed later that year someone hunting near where I was hunting. No biggie, public land, it happens, moved on. Happened again. I started paying closer attention, third time it happened. Well. it didn't take long to figure out the truck this hunter who seemed to be hunting near or in the spots I was using, turned out it was two guys. When I had enough, I moved to a different area, about 20 minutes down the road in another County.

A week later, guess what truck I ran into parked right where I had been parking, when I arrived a little late after work. You got it, same guys. I hunted elsewhere that evening, and when I went back I found they had been climbing trees right where I had been hunting this other area the previous week. So I moved down the road a few miles. Made some huge scrapes. Took a wood rasp to a few large trees, and scattered about the largest droppings I could find anywhere. The I made sure they found this spot by hunting it a few times.

Sure enough, saw that truck parked there a week later. I always wondered how long they hunted that "buck" while I was hunting the mountains about 45 minutes away (hehehe)

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Post by crooketarrow on Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:22 am

DAVE i'm also petty anal about letting anyone know where I'm hunting at. For the same reason started on the last post. I'd be parked and it would'nt take long and I've friends. Come to find out and this went on a couple seasons. They were friends of friends that knew I only hunted mature bucks.
And if I was in that area there was a reason. When ever I'm hunting with someone if their hunting somewhere else and thats uselly the way we do it. I'll get droped off. Here's a tad of advice. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HUNT BUCKS YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALONG.
I LEAVE NO TRACE EITHER.
I HUNT WITH A GHILLIE and have since 82.totally off the ground since 05. When I find where I want to set up a ground site. My blinds no more a old log proped up against a tree maybe some brush. Cool Nothing that looks like a blind to anyone. I SET UP ALL MY SITES TO WHERE THE BUCK HAS TO GO BY ME. Twisted Evil So I won't need much. I've learned not to move and can uselly for 15 or 20 min's.
Before I have move a hair. But in hard woods you can uselly here the buck gets to you and your lane. Twisted Evil

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Post by Tiny52 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:24 pm

Publicbuck wrote:I will occassionally make large rub lines leading from close to parking areas away from my stand sights. I know dirty trick.
GREAT TRICK!

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Post by Tiny52 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:26 pm

Cbigbear wrote:If I walk a main logging rd in I'll make sure to walk back in forth several times in each mud hole. When I'm done it looks like a herd of people have walk in & out this rd.

I am getting so many good ideas here! Laughing

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Post by Tiny52 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:31 pm

This year I am hunting a well hunted area and my idea is to use clothes pins to mark the trail in. I will pull the clothes pins as I enter and replace as I leave. Start at 2 hours before light and stop 1 hour after dark.

After the clock changes, that's gonna be a hard wake up call but I hope to be tagged out by then. I hope

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Post by NanookOdaNorth on Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:34 pm

Here is some advice that might help somebody...this actually happened to me. I used to fish in a lot of bass tournaments and I had my sponsor decals in my rear window and the side windows of my Explorer. The same truck used to find me and hunt the same areas, until I removed the decals. Now nobody really cares where I'm parked...might get a guy once in a while who parks where I'm hunting because he is curious, but the aggravation is nowhere near as bad since I removed the stickers from my truck windows!

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Post by Posted Boy Gallego on Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:50 pm

Some hilarious tricks here. I really love the paper plate note about where guys are hunting though. That is super sneaky and I am sure works! I know if I saw a note like that I would move on.

As for Dave jumping over the hill to hide during his guido web video, I hope you got that on film! hahaha

The fake rub lines technique is just messed up lol. I gotta watch out for that one!
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Post by Publicbuck on Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:32 pm

In regards to the window decal removal. I don't put any deer related decals on my vehicle. I sport several DU decals and I hunt several waterfowl areas so no one is any wiser. I will even throw a cloth gun case in the seat to complete the facade.

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Post by lastoftheloaners on Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:08 pm

I dont hunt from a stand on public land, and i want to thank the guy that put his climbing stand 10 feet facing my ladder stand and was sitting in it when i got there one time that stopped me from using a stand on gov land it has worked out well for me LOL. but that is another story , I hunt scrapes and trails around bedding areas the deer will be around there . but my secret is if first day of season is on a week end i go fishing . LOL i find after bout second week end of bow season lots of city hunters dont show any more and for sure when it gets cold during the week i have the run of the wma area. weekends differ there is always folks enjoying them selfs on wma on week ends.

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Post by Miller-TD#2 on Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:00 pm

Having read this thread it prompted a reply: Here's what I do when an area I prefer is being pressured/highly visited on public land and i prefer to be left alone....

I know that this is down right deceptive but believe me it works...I take my sog machete and cut a trail that leads away from where I want to hunt, making sure I use orange civil tape about 6" long to makr it. I cut about a 100yd trail, clean it up real nice, then do a double hang to indicate a trun and cut a smaller trail just big enough to slide thru quietly making sure you can't miss the trun. Then clean the area and make some mock scrapes and rubs with poop and the works. I even carry an old beat up stand freshly painted and place it about 20ft up in a really visible tree, with a hoist string and all, even have an old [would not use myself] safety strap around the tree just for show.

The best is yet to come: I pee in an old jug and save it outside for about a week, currently have three in the garage, I make it a duty to visit the area at least once every two weeks and saturate the area around the tree. Not only does it make the deer NOT want to vist, but I have glassed three different hunters on three different occasions. I have done this severl times when I find a good place and want to be left alone. I have seen four vehicles at once and the trail cam recorded everyone at different times of the morning going that direction........I grew up around this public land area and know it pretty well.

Best and most funny thing is that no one has ever been the wiser, even had the local CO ask me if that was my doing; thats when ya play dumb.... Rolling Eyes

be careful and hunt safe as well as smarter than the other guy....enjoy.
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